The pre-Qin Dynasty Confucian scholars contrasted reasoning with rhetoric and advocated that rhetoric should be based on reasoning. They argued that an article not based on reasoning would not be a good one. In the Southern Dynasties, Liu Xie (465?-520? or 532?) continued to uphold this view, further arguing that persuasive reasoning constituted the substance of a piece of writing and that a graceful literary style enhanced its appeal. He believed that Confucian scholars produced reasoning-based writings with graceful literary style, thus turning these fine writings into classics.